Nachricht Nummer : 97 Übertragungszeit : 3 min 54 sec Nachricht von : WAM@ZAMIR-ZG.ZER.sub.org Betrifft : Zagreb Diary 16 May, 1993 Erstellungsdatum : 17.05.1993 12:08:00 S+2 Realname: Wam Kat Zagreb Diary 16 May, 1993 Dobar Dan, In principle I should have been in the Netherlands at this moment, I promised my children and friends to visit them and do some fund-raising at the side line. But as you can see I am still in Zagreb and I have told my friends that I wouldn't come as long as the situation here is as unclear as it is, I simply can't imagine myself in the Netherlands, when the possibility is so high that any moment the military intervention can start and I want to here when that is happening. Especially fund-raising is rather necessary at the moment since part of our stress at this moment in time. It looks a bit if the whole world is waiting until the situation becomes again a little bit more clear. Of course I can imagine this feeling of being afraid for helping the "wrong" people, although I have the feeling that victims are never "wrong". Also the idea that help for Croatia is not necessary anymore is not true, you hear often this opinion the war is over in Croatia, now all help should go to BiH. Remember that within Croatia there are still nearly 700.000 or more refugees and displaced people, even when the Croatian government has made new guidelines and the amount of refugees and displaced people became a lot less, without anybody leaving the country by the way, still one out of every 9th persons is displaced or refugee. Croatia is also a country on the edge of total bankruptcy, two days ago a new bank note came on the market, the 10.000 HDR, this shows that the inflation is still going on, so the state is absolute not capable to take care of that problem. In fact I am still very much in favour that all care and responsibility should be taken over by International organisations, like UNHCR, but that is another story. But as long as there are refugee camps in Croatia were the elderly people have to sleep in shifts, because of the fact that there are not enough beds, and were we have to provide milk and fruit in camps to be sure that there is no mall nutrition, as long as each pill which comes via NeXus and other international organisations contacts into the country immediately is been used and is simply otherwise not available help for people in Croatia is needed. Of course the stories are told, and often true that there are warehouses around the country were food and supplies are stock piling and not been distributed, that is more a problem from bad management and logistic than a fact that materials are not needed. Also Croatia is a country in transmission from a kind of Eastern European Socialist economy to a West European capitalist economy and that is not as easy as it may sound. During this process a lot of people which are now more or less employed will loose there jobs, since there wouldn't be any work for them anymore, as there wasn't in reality work for them in the past. They were only employed often to be there. And if Croatia as state will be able to support all those new unemployed is an very open question. The situation of foreign Humanitarian organisations is getting harder, now the state is getting better organised and the chaos from the beginning is slowly over, not yet, but it is getting better, our position is less flexible than in the beginning. Messages coming out of UNHCR are also pointing that out. More and more rules will come to get a governmental grip on the thousands of private bigger and smaller initiatives. But we will see, it means for me that all this organisations are more and more stressed to co-operate better. In my daily telephone calls with Citluk it became clear again that the fights in Mostar are far from over. It reminds me a talk I had in January with somebody of the local Merhamet (the local Muslim aid organisation, a little bit like Caritas) and we visit the Muslim refugee centres in the town, which were under terrible conditions (no heating, hardly no windows, broken toilets, etc.). We offered him to help him with rebuilding activities, like we have done in Posusje and organising activities for the children and women. He reacted that we had to wait with it until it was absolute sure that there wouldn't be any shelling anymore from the mountain with the television tower (the "Chetnik" positions). At that moment we didn't thought that the danger would be able to come from inside the city. At least we didn't talk about it. It is Sunday today and I have the time to spend some more time on the networking computer, I am proud on our system it start to get really used, more and more groups within Croatia starts to see the impact of this virtual world. And we start to realise that we are not putting our information in a big black hole. Hopefully we will be able to install a bigger harddisk soon and start to link up our system with already existing Fide systems around the country. Talking about Email and electronic networking I remember the story which was told to me when I started to ask around why the university computer weren't represented much on the International computer nets. Somebody told me that in the beginning of the war a lot of people from outside tried to log into the computers in Croatia and that some people from here started to write messages on the international net, signed with Franjo Tudjman and that on that moment all the International lines were cut. At the moment they are re-established, but as all of you can see it is not really used a lot. Bok I Mir from Zagreb, Wam PS Yesterday I wrote something about Tudjman, what could be wrong interpreted. The television is *not* referring to him as "father of all Croats", that was I line I quoted from an Indian chief, who visit Croatian about half a year ago. What I wanted to say was that if the news want to say something about Tudjman, they always say "Doctora Franjo Tudjmana" and the using of that title surprised me, in my country we are not so use to that. ------------------------------------------------------ Zagreb Diary can be found on a lot of different electronic networks, it is copyright free and can be ported to any network or other means of communication you like, but please drop my a line, you can reach by sending a message to wam@zamir-zg.comlink.de or wam@zamir-zg.comlink.apc.org. Zagreb Diary is dedicated to Tyche, Pjort and Rik, so that they found out what there father have been doing all that time in Zagreb. Financial support for Grassroot relief work in Croatia or BiH can be send to Kollektief Rampenplan (atn. Lylette, Postbox 780, 6130 AN Sittard, Netherlands, tel:. +31-46-524803 and fax: +31-46-516460 or to Zagrebacka Banka, Zagreb, accountnr.: 2440291594, to Kat, Pieter Jan Herman Fredrik, Brace Domany 6 6fl nr3, 41000 Zagreb. Please notify me if you send or have send any donations. ## CrossPoint v2.1 ##