Nachricht Nummer : 114 Übertragungszeit : 3 min 55 sec Nachricht von : WAM@ZAMIR-ZG.ZER.sub.org Betrifft : Zagreb Diary 21 May, 1993 Erstellungsdatum : 24.05.1993 09:00:00 S+2 Realname: Wam Kat Zagreb Diary 21 May, 1993 Dobar dan, My room mate just left when the bell of our apartment went off, since I had been working most of the night I was more or less still somewhere in dream land, but I since it kept on ringing I started to have this feeling that the building was on fire or so and decided to open the door. In front of it stood a young women, mother I should say, with about 3 children, all looking up to me with their big brown demanding eyes. The women started a speech in Croatian or Bosnian (I am not able to hear the difference anyway) I tried to make her clear that I couldn't follow it, but she kept on talking, at the end she turned her hand to me with a certain logic in her face that after such a long story I surely would produce some money for her. I reacted back "Nizozemska, nema Hrvatska, Englanski" and she looked confused again knowing that I hadn't understood most of what she was saying before. She started again "Tata, dead, nema money". In bit and pieces it became clear that they were from somewhere near Vitez, her husband and father of the kids was killed or disappaired and she was along. I gave her 3000 HDR, all what I had on that moment in Croatian money and felt stupid, she was so smart to go up in the building to ask for money, how many are their really out there, even here in Zagreb, who never will go over that line, who for ever will take their pride more important than getting the food for their children by begging. Of course it is not the solution that all of them start going from door to door, we would have in no time new problems on our hands. And maybe it is not even clever that I had given them some money, god knows it always the same, should I give or shouldn't I. Yesterday we found a possible operator for BBS in Tuzla, today I bumped into the hardware necessary for linking up harder reachable cities as Bihac and Sarajevo. A Canadian guy which came to Croatia to start building up computer radio links with BiH cities. In the first period he raised about 6 radio modems, 3 radio sets and a bunch of money to start it. Since than he is however looking for a group which was able to run the network, place the machines, connected it to international lines and train the operators. He found people in Bihac, but had problems finding them in Croatia. Who said that solidarity is high in war time, even under the international organisations the co-operation is not always going as it should go. Anyway he bumped in to Vincent from ICVA, which is running the BBS for NGO's in Geneva, which we have connected to ZaMir some weeks ago and Vincent told him from me and today I went to the organisation he is working, the Christian Information Service, a name which is co-responsible for the fact that some other organisations thought it was not clever to co-operated with them. This group is formed in the beginning of the war in Croatia as press and news agency for all Christian churches, and within the organisation people from the Protestant, catholic and orthodox churches work together. The founder of the group just returned from a meeting in Vienna with representatives from churches, not only Christian, from the different former Yugoslavia republics. He told me that the willingness to cooperate in joint peace activities is very high. They also had some small contacts with the peace group in Osijek, Katherine is also a real Christian, but some how up to now there wasn't any contact between ARK and this KIS group. Big party tonight in the peace centre, with people from the centre, from ARK, from the women project, from NeXus, from SunCokret, from ZAPO (The young Anarchists), volunteers from everywhere, the new ARKzin is ready. Vesna was laying in bed all the time that it was produced, but the rest of the editing team still went on making it. Not totally alone, since Vesna bed looked often like the table in an editor office, but still. By the way our doctor, just back from Tuzla was also on the party, they arrived yesterday back in Zagreb and have started preparing their trip back already. The results and reaction from the first ARKzin came also back, it is clear that the magazine is not really able to be sold on the streets, even some of the bookstore owners got reactions "How in the hell could they as good Croats sell Serbian propaganda". But that means nothing the former Danas, before the government closed it down and restarted it again with an other editor team, was also considered as Serbian propaganda. Admitting that you have friends in Serbia is sometimes even considered as being worst that "a Serb". You get a little used to those small minded remarks. If those people would have read it they would maybe have got another opinion, but I wonder it, this reaction "Serbian propaganda" is the easiest, at least to keep a war going. But there are not many people who haven't got friends on the other side of the UNPA lines, in principle nearly everybody has some body there they like to talk to or send a letter to. Try f.e. the telephone bridge over Hungary, impossible the lines are always occupied. And when people, in a pub or so, find out that we have the technical possibility to send letters and messages to Beograd, or even give mail to people who are going there, they look at you if you are talking about going to the planet Mars or so. That it is principle possible to post a letter in a normal mailbox in Zagreb addresses to Beograd and that that letter will be arriving in Beograd is something which is not understood by most of the people. Of course some will disappear or will be opened. As well as that some people told me that if you do it you will be on a blacklist of the police or something like that, but that is not the worst thing in life, I am probably on lot of blacklists already and never had really problems with it, I have not much to hide anyway. Bok I Mir from Zagreb, Wam ------------------------------------------------------ Zagreb Diary can be found on a lot of different electronic networks, it is copyright free and can be ported to any network or other means of communication you like, but please drop my a line, you can reach by sending a message to wam@zamir-zg.comlink.de or wam@zamir-zg.comlink.apc.org. Zagreb Diary is dedicated to Tyche, Pjort and Rik, so that they found out what there father have been doing all that time in Zagreb. Financial support for Grassroot relief work in Croatia or BiH can be send to Kollektief Rampenplan (atn. Lylette, Postbox 780, 6130 AN Sittard, Netherlands, tel:. +31-46-524803 and fax: +31-46-516460 or to Zagrebacka Banka, Zagreb, accountnr.: 2440291594, to Kat, Pieter Jan Herman Fredrik, Brace Domany 6 6fl nr3, 41000 Zagreb. Please notify me if you send or have send any donations. ## CrossPoint v2.1 ##