Nachricht Nummer : 511 Übertragungszeit : 4 min 12 sec Nachricht von : WAM@ZAMIR-ZG.ztn.zer.de (Wam) Antworten an : wam@zamir-zg.ztn.zer.de Betrifft : Zagreb Diary 31 August 1994 Kopienempfänger : /REG/NEWS/DIARY/WAM, /APC/YUGO/ANTIWAR, /CL/EUROPA/BALKAN, /SOC/CULTURE/BOSNA-HERZGVNA, /SOC/CULTURE/CROATIA, /SOC/CULTURE/YUGOSLAVIA Erstellungsdatum : 07.09.1994 15:23:00 S+2 Zagreb Diary (Due to technical problems I can't spel check this text, hope you still understand it) Zagreb, 31 August 1994 Dobar Dan, Yesterday evening I had a nice meeting with Vesna Kasic and Milorad Pupavac (chairman of Serbian democratic Forum), I asked them to explain a bit more of the things which I even after nearly 2 1/2 years here still really don't understand. My problem is still that a lot of words have a deeper meaning in this area. A simple word like f.e. "federation" is loaded with all kind of discusions which took place in the /end 80'ties and the period in the 90'ties untill the war started in Slovenia. When I mention the word, some people reacted if I openly quoted and supported parts of "Mein Kampf" and ideas from Hitler. For me it hasn't those deeper meanings, my home country (Netherlands) has a kind of federation for over 30 years with Belgium and Luxemburg and shortly with 11 other European states, nevertheless I feel totally independent as Dutch citizins, not at all Benelux or EC citizins. Federation here is always closely related to former Yugoslavia, talking about it reminds people on the old days before the wars started. In this case, however, we talked again about the years before the war in Western Slavonia and the secrets around a village called Spanovice (up to 91 it was called different it was renamed by the solialists directly after world war 2) nowerdays. It was good to hear the story without all the emotions involved as I hear it all the time in Pakrac (on both sides of the line). Today's geust of the summer school is Cicak, the president of the Croatian Helsinki Council (HHO). For those who don't know him that well I will try to introduce him as best as I can. He was student in the 60'ties and early 70'ties and one of the student leaders in the Croatian spring (a Croatian nationalist uprising in 1971). As most known Croatian Spring activists he was send to prison (another famous one, Franjo Tudjman, also spend some time in jail in those days, although most people would say that his (Tudjman's) cell was more like a suite in a Hilton hotel). After the first free elections in Yugoslavia in 1990, which where in Croatia totally won by HDZ, he was shortly member of Tudjman's first government, minister without function, but removed after a few months, during the first changings (which up to a year ago took place regularly (nearly every second month)). As result he became an out spoken critic towards the goverment, not particular blaming them nationalistic tendencies, since he is still what you call a promotor of Craotian nationalism, but mostly he reacted on the regular break of the international agreed human rights by Croatian authorities. In 1992 and 1993 he became internationally known as somebody which gave heavy, but not always completely proofable or fair, critisism on the doings of the Croatian state, especially in foreign newspapers. The results were that he became not particularly loved by his "old friends". In 1993 he pronounced himself more or less chairman of the new establsihed Croatian branch of the Helsinki Council (an international Human Right organisation). Over the last year a lot of his orginal critism became milde, and in his function of chairman of HHO he took up a kind of position in between the more radical human right and peace organisations (like for example the Anti War Campaign) and the Croatian state. He accused f.e. in the Croatian press that ARKzin and Feral Tribune are mis-using the right for freedom of press by publishing only articles opposing the Croatian state. At the same moment he also accused the regular Croatian press for only writing articles in favour of the states politics. All in all a position which is not always so easy to anticipate his political line and some people I know would say his interpretation of human rights. So a colourfull person in the Croatian political spectrum. By the way if this introduction is seem as a kind of critisism on HHO it is seen wrongly, it is just a discription of what I heard and learned about the political doings and vision of its chairman. HHO, often in cooperation with other branches of the Helsinki Council and other (inter)national human rights organisations, is doing a lot of great work for human rights in this country. Anyway Vesna Jankovic, Vesna Kasic and I didn't attended his introduction, we heard later that there wasn't much new things said, we went out to look for some Swedish participants, who also join the meeting. Unfortunately we couldn't find them. We walked over the beach a few times and I found out that the refugees, from whom there use to be living about 600 in one of the hotel complexes, where moved out. But I am sure that I heard people speaking Bosnian on the beach yesterday (when I passed by about 12 old women playing bingo on the beach), so they still must be around, tomorrow I will try to find out were they are and if Suncokret is still active here in the town. Walking around the town we ofcourse saw posters from the Pope, which are also here all over the place. The whole country is full with them, nearly all towns and villages are preparing themselves for the big days next week, they all organise busses and other trips to Zagreb to see him. In the newspapers appears one colour poster after the other, stating how much the Croats love their spiritual father. On the television you see interview after documentary. The big qeustion up to some days ago was if the Pope would also go to Sarajevo, but a few days ago the Vatican official announced that the town was safe enough for a visit. After our search the both Vesnas went to join the last part of Cicak's speech and went to the beach to read the last chapters of a book about the political strategies of Ghandi, which I started some days ago. I was just back in time at the restaurant where most of the participants are eating to join the ongoing meetings about the realisation of a kind of network from all the local human rights groups. About a mounth ago they started with this coordination meetings and the aim is to work more closely together in the future. Most of those groups, especially those outside of Zagreb are rather small, not more than three or four active members and have a hard time to survive, not so much (financial) support from outside the country. Nevertheless especially in the smaller towns bigger or smaller violations of human rights, especially evicions of houses of the former JNA are still happening there (although Tudjman promised in December last year that such things wouldn't happen again and that the official state policy is against it). The realisation of that network is not going without the neccessary heavy discussions. Countery to the way most of the groups which are establish out of or around ARK (Anti War Campaign) most of the others are formed by people from what you can say an "older" generation, lot's of those already were more or less active in the former days before the wars (in "socialist" organisations). The different between socialist top-bottom organised and the newer horizontal organised groups makes the general understanding from the how and what a network is not always that easy. But sseing the enthousiasm and the energy people are willing to put into this cooperation it looks hopeful. 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