Nachricht Nummer : 535 Übertragungszeit : 3 min 34 sec Nachricht von : WAM@ZAMIR-ZG.ztn.zer.de (Wam) Antworten an : wam@zamir-zg.ztn.zer.de Betrifft : Zagreb Diary 7 November 1994 Kopienempfänger : /REG/NEWS/DIARY/WAM, /APC/YUGO/ANTIWAR, /CL/EUROPA/BALKAN, /SOC/CULTURE/BOSNA-HERZGVNA, /SOC/CULTURE/CROATIA, /SOC/CULTURE/YUGOSLAVIA Erstellungsdatum : 07.11.1994 16:16:00 W+1 Zagreb Diary, 7 November, 1994 Dobar Dan, The west bank in the hands of the 5th corps of BiHarmija and the East bank in the hands of Bosnian Serbian army, fighting heavily not the loose the town. That is different from f.e. Kupres where most of the fighting went to other way around. In this case the BiH troops came from north-west, rather than south-east. It happens app. 100 Kilometre north from Kupres, a little south on the border line between the BiH government controlled Bihac pocket and the North-west part of Bosnian Serb held BiH. On the borders of the river Una, from where UN observers report that in Bosanska Krupa the fighting is heavy and it looks that Bosnian Serb forces are re-grouping itself and getting support, but nothing sure yet. The BiH 5th corps took in the last week 250 Km2 from the Bosnian Serbs and after the fights they had earlier this year with the defenders from the independent Bihac pocket and taking it back under control of the BiH government in Sarajevo. A corps what is likely to make itself a name. Mostly you hear something vague as HVO or BSA troops or so, but next time I see a BiH soldier in Zagreb I will see. I wonder what kind of symbol and nickname the have found for themselves. Yes it seems that the fighting really has started. It is months ago that there was such a battle at the front-line. For months the fronts seem to be stable. No real movements up and down the line. There is always a kind of trilling going through my body if I log in on line to our ZaMir-Zg hosts and see that on the other line a netcall is busy with ZaMir-Sa, they have again down there electricity and telephone working at the same time at the same spot and our system has made it trough through the obvious hundred of phonecalls which are taken place or people want to have taken place. You look as it where at those brave bits and bytes who are without their knowing on their way to Sarajevo, passing check point and war zones, without UNPROFOR protections and god know where they may end. Under what conditions those users from ZaMir-Sa have to run their netcall I only can imagine. Somewhere from the basis of a total destroyed house, or from a room where you only have to look up to see the blue sky. Since a few months this connection is up and running, Eric just installed the next ZTN (Za Mir TransNational Network) hosts in Kosova. The new system is a bit a stranger in the ZTN family, up to now all system called Za Mir (For Peace), but this system calls Zana, which is the name of an old Illiric good goddess in the forest. In Kosova most people al from Albanian ethnically background, according to the figure from a few years ago, at least 90%, and in Albanian For Peace is something completely different than the Slavic ZaMir. More over the word would be longer than the 8 characters which DOS allows us to use. Things are not really quiet down there either, at least now we hear the direct reactions from people there and if you read the output from the Kosova information in London. We don't call it war, but if you read the stories the situation is not far away from it. It is hard to figure out what is really happening down there glad that we can be in contact now with groups there. And so it happens that Email from Beograd and Prishtina end up in Sarajevo, even some times causing a traffic jam on our system in Zagreb. But it is as some researcher asked me some days ago, true, Email can come from where you normally don't hear about and surely not to hear directly from that place. From other people around the world I am noticing that the winter is fastly coming already, some people on the same level as we in the states already have had snow last weekend. In Zagreb it is rainy and wet, but soon the snow can come to this region, starting again the in the mountains in the middle of Bosna. Like last year in November. But also we have to think about how to get our projects through the long winter days. Since besides that it is cold it is also the time that not much money is coming in to keep f.e. Pakrac, but also ZaMir running. We have in Pakrac about enough till the end of the year, but after that we have to thing again. Fund- raising is a job I hate but it has to be done, as said for destruction there seems to be unlimited sources, the story from f.e. that house in Gornji Vakuf, the soldier who has destroyed has used more bullets than what the new building of at least 10 of the same houses would cost. He shot with an automatic riffle a house in pebbles. Must have been busy for some days to do it. The last line of the diary today are from Ivo, a guy from Zagreb who lives now in New York (sorry people on APC): "In Croatia, the whole our youth Communist Party scared us in schools and in media with Chetnicks and Ustashas. They wanted us to hate them. Whole our youth it's visionary leaders choked us with their holly war against all kinds of supposed nationalism. We hated them leaders, too. They'd throw us in prison for three years just for singing the "wrong" song. Then, suddenly, all of them disappear into Ustashas and Chetnicks, sunking into their very enemies. Now we have Ustashas in the cities and Chetnicks in the country, and most of them are former Communist Party officials. Isn't that scary?" And the big question now is not what is the right song, but which lyrics should you sing with which melody at which place. I heard the most "wonderful" Ustasha songs, which I recognised from the melody as former Partisan songs, but also a few weeks later I got the Chetnik version and in between the more moderate Croatian or Serbian version. So .... Mir za somewhere in or around Hrvatska, Wam --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zagreb Diary can be found on a lot of different electronic networks, it is copyright free and can be ported to any network or other means of communication you like, but please drop my a line, you can reach by sending a message to WAM@ZAMIR- ZG.ztn.zer.de. 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