Nachricht Nummer : 561 Übertragungszeit : 3 min 18 sec Nachricht von : WAM@ZAMIR-ZG.ztn.zer.de (Wam) Antworten an : wam@zamir-zg.ztn.zer.de Betrifft : Zagreb Diary 30 November 1994 Kopienempfänger : /REG/NEWS/DIARY/WAM, /SOC/CULTURE/YUGOSLAVIA, /SOC/CULTURE/CROATIA, /SOC/CULTURE/BOSNA-HERZGVNA, /CL/EUROPA/BALKAN, /APC/YUGO/ANTIWAR Erstellungsdatum : 02.12.1994 17:54:00 W+1 Zagreb Diary, 30 November, 1994 Dobar Dan, We always knew that UNPROFOR is not so fast, we have been joking about it and being frustrated about it. But today the newest record has been broken. Today it was announced that NATO is indeed working on plans to able to withdraw UN troops for un- friendly area's. In the case of BiH that would take at least 165 days to withdraw all UNPROFOR troops, according an UNPROFOR spokesmen. So for the first time we have now heard how long it actual would take before UNPROFOR can give a green light for NATO actions if they don't want to have UNPROFOR troops on the ground when the NATO starts with their somehow less peaceful way of solving the problems in the area (if you compare it with UNPROFOR now). And at this moment it will probably take even longer, at least 165 men, Dutch and UK, are taken hostage at the moment. Or rather not taken hostage, since that would probably sound to aggressive, they are blocked according to UNPROFOR terms. The effect is the same, they can't leave the place they are in at the moment, a observation post or so, and are unclear what will happen with them if they break the blockade. The same with some UN monitors who have so-called house-arrest in Banja Luka. Let them be heard, somebody said, to make the rest of the world a little less paralysed by their so-called neutrality. Now they face who the real aggressors are (not my words !). Anyway Mladic said today clear and short that he was not willing to let those UNPROFOR soldiers go. Nevertheless Boutros Boutros Ghali came by to pay a visit in Sarajevo. He had talks with all the high UNPROFOR and other UN agencies people on the ground, met Alija Izetbegovic and some other BiH and federation representatives and paid a visit at the Bosnian Serbian side of the town in order to have talks with Bosnian Serbian representatives. In Sarajevo is was quiet today, that is clear. Also in Bihac it was reported to be relative quiet. Rose claimed that since the weekend the "Serbs" haven't used their heavy guns on the town anymore. So he didn't had to asked for NATO air support. The real fights now are at Velika Kladusa, about 50 Kilometre more or less South of Karlovac, 20 days without water and surrounded. The town is attacked according to UNPROFOR by Bosnian Serbs, Croatian Serbs and troops from Abdic, in which their are mostly Muslims and a few Croats. Although the fights are heavy Andreas and I didn't notice anything from it when we visit Karlovac today. I was thinking what my mother would say, after this arrest of Dutch UNPROFOR, Mama I go about 60 Kilometre closer to the battle field, so would only have understood it if I could explain her what really is going on around here in each small town and area. In Karlovac we went to visit to local peace centre in order to fix their Email problems. The computer connection as most of the peace centre are not much ore than the living room of one of the local activists, who has now his house full with by-passing activists and even international volunteers, who stay for a while to help. It took us a while to find the place since with all the renaming and new people in town we got send all over the place. We found out that the place e had to be was connected to the former JNA (Yugoslav Army) street, which probably is now named different, even when the nameplate was still hanging. On the way back we show one of the nicest UN vehicles I have seen so far. We past by such a nice brand new high modern touring bus, with toilet, video, bar and so on. Although the outside was still painted in the colours of the travel agency which used to drive around with it, but in-between the nice colours we recognised the characters UN. I thought we were the only ones in Croatia in Pakrac who had a none white UN car. Tommy had a lot of problems with it in the past. But UNPROFOR seems to get more colourful. Not much help transport on the road today however, the line to the Bihac pocket from Karlovac is fairly closed. Andreas is by the way the new sysop of ZaMir-Zg, he lived here for a while in Croatia and came a few weeks ago from Krk to Zagreb to help us with our system. Big plans are coming up, like direct connection to the InterNet and a nice enlargement of ZaMir- Zg as a whole. So we are very happy to have him here, he is by the way half Croatian, so he speak and writes the local languages a lot faster than I. And that has advantages. Tudjman is in Argentina and I am reading the book "Recuerdo de la Muerte" (Memories of the dead) by Miguel Bonasso. A book about people who were taken prisoners by the military during the dirty war in Argentina. The book is written when he was living in exile in Mexico. I don't know if Miguel returned back to his home country after he got out of jails and special institutions he has been in. I read similar books before and really every time I am visiting the Argentineans in Pakrac in their bases somewhere deep inside this stories still some how play a role. Anyway Menem gave Tudjman today a real big welcome, all the extra attentions were there. The military guards, the music, the official banquet and all those other tokens of importance. Mir za somewhere in or around Hrvatska, Wam --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zagreb Diary can be found on a lot of different electronic networks, it is copyright free and can be ported to any network or other means of communication you like, but please drop my a line, you can reach by sending a message to WAM@ZAMIR- ZG.ztn.zer.de. Zagreb Diary is dedicated to Tyche, Pjort and Rik, so that they found out what there father have been doing all that time in Zagreb. ## CrossPoint v3.02 ##